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Christian: Just because you cannot see God doesn't mean he isn't real!

Atheist: And Just because you say that doesn't make him real!

Christian: You believe the air is there, you breathe it in, yet you cannot grab it and say this is air and prove to me it exists.

Atheist: You're just making things up! I can feel the air!

Christian: I don't believe you feel the air, so what can you possibly do to prove it being real?

Atheist: You can feel it too!

Christian: And what if I said that wasn't air? What if I said you're wrong.

Atheist: then you're a fool!

Christian: You, and everyone feels God's presence, when you feel someone there when you have done wrong, you look, and see no one there, but you can feel it, am I right?

Atheist: common schizophrenia!

Christian: Not true. You saying that is like me saying you feeling the air is schizophrenia, you say you feel it, but I see nothing!

Atheist: what is your point?

Christian: My point is... You may not see God, like you cannot see the air, but you can feel his presence like you can feel the air. God is there, like the air is there. You just have to believe like you believe the air is there.
Undeniable Truth.
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TeraStormTAS Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oh gosh, this is amazing!
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MidnightDawn0-0 Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Amen!!!!!!!! You did so amazing on this. Thank you so much for putting this up :)
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PeachBum Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2011
Thank you for trying to open peoples hearts to God!

Peace be with you!
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EnjiAikoKan Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
Wow, this one has a completely different vibe from the last piece I just read of yours. o. O

This kind of goes against everything I had learned of Jesus/Bible/Christians (although that's not saying much since I'm not a Christian and you are, lol). This kind of thing doesn't bring atheists any closer to God because it's mostly kind of looking down on their beliefs and also their perspectives and ideas (which I guess maybe is part of Christianity, I don't know >,< If this sounds offensive, I don't mean it to be at all, I'm just trying to understand a little better) Jesus definitely knew when to call people out, but at the core of all of his actions, was compassion. If that's how Jesus was, shouldn't that be how his followers are?

I think the Bible mentions that those who are 'dead in the spirit' (or in modern terms, non-Christian), it is impossible to understand having a relationship with God so why reason in this manner. If you read a book to a dead person, they won't come back to life, right? This post is kind of like that (in my opinion and I'm guessing also the opinions of some others who commented already). It's quite disrespectful on a person level, but maybe that's okay for Christians (That sounded awful, but I've noticed Christians often don't try to respect non-Christians so I'm wondering if that's okay in the religion? It's only a reflection of my thought and I'm only one person as it stands so it really doesn't mean much).

Did Jesus act so proudly? I thought he was more humble, but there are parts in the Bible that I can't tell.

I feel like Jesus wouldn't put so much focus on science vs. religion, because he seemed to mostly care for people and their souls. For example, "the greatest of these is love" and also, "What is the greatest commandment?" "The greatest commandment is to put God above all others and the second one is like it, to love thy neighbor." By this, I heard that he meant, "Love God. Love people."

So, the real point I'm trying to ask you, and I know this whole post was maybe abrasive and rude, is
Is this dialogue you posted along the lines of 'loving people?'

I saw in the last thing I read that you said you love atheists, so that's why I'm confused right now. Because, I didn't feel any love in this towards atheist.
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xiao668 Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2012
Actually, your completely right. Honestly, this isn't the attitude we Christians should take on, at all.
Though, some great Christians like to take on similar debates (Eg. Evolution V.S. Christianity) and have managed to save some souls, most of the time, it just turns into a mess of a heated debate. It's best to stop the argument before it gets to this point, and walk away as friends (if possible).
Though, honestly, I have to admit I've made the very same mistake very many times. XD I'm just human after all.
God bless. :3 Hope you come to Christ one day.
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NexusHUB Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
Deniable. The air is built up of compounds carefully inspected. It contains a structure, can be moved to form wind and move everything around us. God, on the other hand, is a placebo effect.
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colorfusionable Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2011  Student General Artist
amen :)
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Twilightlover2007 Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2011  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Amen! :D
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abortionofsoul Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
THUMBS UP! Very nice!
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Vader999 Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2011
Then again, with a purely materialistic understanding of things, conscience and consciousness cannot be defined.
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NShayed Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
This is great. <3
But we don't have to use words to prove God is real, we are Christians so we are suppose to be Christ-like. Which will draw others to the Lord when they see us, and how we live. (they see jesus in us) We are suppose to be about peace and love. We can't deal with someones heart, that is His job. We are meant to live for Him, follow His Word and love.
I hope everyone has a blessed week! =-D
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cherrygal96 Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
I agree! It's a lot harder than that to persuade someone though. My mom, sister and I are the only Christians in our family. The rest are atheists.
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Zekkry Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2011  Student Writer
Replace God with any fictional character and see how ridiculous of an argument it is. You provide no evidence towards his existence, all you're saying is, "Oh yeah he's there! I know you can't see him, but you can feel him! You just gotta believe! Just like you believe in air even though you cannot see it!"

Uhhhh, no. There is evidence for the existence of air. There is logical reasoning for the existence of air.
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JenMcGully Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
There is evidence of God all around you, look at the complexity of it all, how did it all just get here or just be this way? And by the way, you can feel Him, see Him, and hear Him.
You've just got to listen and know He's going to talk to you when He wants you to hear Him ;)
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Zekkry Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2011  Student Writer
Well then. How would have the complexity of God come to exist? If the universe was created by a being, then that being would have to have a creator, and his creator must have a creator, and so on and so on. It's a never ending paradox. And the only God I feel is the inner God of spirituality. [link]
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JenMcGully Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
We can't understand His complexity because it is so superior to ours. We are only human and can only understand so much in our brains up there. If God were to allow us to see Him and and understand it'd be so much we'd end up dieing and seeing Him again. It's not a never ending paradox; only if you want to look at it that way and not try to see the reason in it. There is reason in it even if you don't think so.
That's a real shame you think so... I really am sorry that you can't feel it. But because you can't feel it doesn't mean you have to blasphemy us because we can feel it and you can't.
I wouldn't mind it so much if you just laughed and said I'm crazy but blasphemy? No. Especially directed so towards my God? No.

Lucky for everybody we'll all find out which is which, what is real and what isn't. Interesting part of it is, it's coming sooner then anyone thinks. I can't help but wonder how that'll blow over
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Zekkry Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2011  Student Writer
This is an extremely idiotic "argument" for God.

OK, so. Your argment was, in a nutshell, exactly like this:

Christian: Just because you cannot see The Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn't mean he isn't real!

Atheist: And Just because you say that doesn't make him real!

Christian: You believe the air is there, you breathe it in, yet you cannot grab it and say this is air and prove to me it exists.

Atheist: You're just making things up! I can feel the air!

Christian: I don't believe you feel the air, so what can you possibly do to prove it being real?

Atheist: You can feel it too!

Christian: And what if I said that wasn't air? What if I said you're wrong.

Atheist: then you're a fool!

Christian: You, and everyone feels The Flying Spaghetti Monster's presence, when you feel someone there when you have done wrong, you look, and see no one there, but you can feel it, am I right?

Atheist: common schizophrenia!

Christian: Not true. You saying that is like me saying you feeling the air is schizophrenia, you say you feel it, but I see nothing!

Atheist: what is your point?

Christian: My point is... You may not see The Flying Spaghetti Monster, like you cannot see the air, but you can feel his presence like you can feel the air. The Flying Spaghetti Monster is there, like the air is there. You just have to believe like you believe the air is there.
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JenMcGully Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
This is not an idiotic argument because that's what a lot of Atheists (that I've met anyway[no offense to you atheists]) would say, to tell you the truth.

True you could say it with anything but you chose not to see it how it is displayed because you don't want it to make any sense. You seem to just want to ridicule someone for their beliefs because they differ from your own. At least that's what I'm getting,
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Zekkry Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2011  Student Writer
I choose not to see it because there is no logical reasoning to prove the existence of God. And yes, I do ridicule other people's beliefs. Because I see that they are obviously false. I do support the right to hold any belief one wants though. Besides, many Christians want to force Atheists to convert to Christianity.
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ThePenVsTheSword Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2011  Student Writer
I'm going to stop you right there. It shouldn't matter what your beliefs are. There is no reason whatsoever to ridicule someone's beliefs just because you think they're false. Disagree, sure. Even debate, fine. Ridicule, no. Should someone lambast you and your beliefs just because they think they're wrong?
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JenMcGully Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Exactly what I am talking about, you refuse to see reason in anything Christian oriented! Which is why you don't see the logic in it!

You blasphemy our God and we defend Him and you blasphemy us some more and hate us because we were merely defending Him.
If anyone was to ridicule you for being an atheist you'd lay into them. Christians are being persecuted yet again and will until the the end of time.
It's quite the other way around we are not trying to convert you, maybe help you see reason in our beliefs so you wouldn't condemn us to the pits of hell. We want to share with others the joy, love and peace we have from loving our God. You don't want to hear it so we bite our tongues so as not to offend you for your beliefs but then you try to convert us.
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Ms-Kiyomi Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
God is there?

For every argument for god, there is an argument against god. The air can be proven to exist through scientific means, god can be proven to exist through religious means. Is one more valid than the other? Possibly. But how is it ever possible to know for sure?

For you, god exists. For many, in fact for a majority of the planet, god exists. But if one person is raised from birth saying their is a god, and another is raised from birth saying their isn't a god, is it possible to prove their points to each other? No, they would have their views.

The problem with the argument about god isn't because god doesn't exist, and it isn't because god does exist, it's because people think differently. The arguments you use against a scientific thinker will make no sense to them, just as the arguments they use against you make no sense to you. This isn't because one side is wrong, it's because some people need to see to believe while others have the capacity to just have faith.

So I believe that god exists, for you. God is in the world, touching everyone's lives, making the world better, and working in ways we can't understand. But for me, and for many people, god does not exist. And, more specifically, just because someone does not believe in god doesn't mean they won't. Sometimes it is just a matter of how much proof has to be presented before they have faith (these people are Agnostic, if you didn't know).

I won't attack your arguments, and I won't tell you your views are wrong. Just be aware that with this bit of writing you're more likely to make a non-believer solidify his views than you are to enlighten your readers. Your views are right, for you and many people. But please, for the Atheists, Agnostics, and other religions out there, learn who we are before you post against us.
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JenMcGully Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Actually... God can be proven real through both scientific and religious means... and this debate about God being proven through science has been going on for centuries at a time...
Both the scientific versions of how life began are totally illogical, a Higher Being then us that made it is more logical because... something just exploding out of nowhere really isn't that possible, and evolving from that something doesn't seem too logical because why did we stop how many years ago...?
And saying that we evolved from fish and apes and all is really a big insult to all humans.
Also to consider would be how are our bodies so complex and how could they be so distinctly complex if there were just a big bang and we were all here? how are our senses all very useful in every way to us here on earth?
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NexusHUB Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
There is no science in God, you seem to be blaming atheists for what you're committing. God is a higher power, meaning the mysterious force that somehow has the complexity to create the complexity you can't seem to attribute to natural occurrence. It doesn't matter what we evolved from, and no it wasn't fish. It was an ancestor of apes. Why is that such an insult? Is it so deniable, seeing as the families are so close together, also with evidence for the theory provided? God also doesn't have a definable molecular structure, a physical being, and YET can have so much power in not only actions but also a thinking brain...that isn't physically there...to create the world. ALSO said deity "always was" which doesn't make an ounce of sense. Not to you, the world was not created for humans, the atmospheric levels had to be regulated before we could even exist. This wasn't created for us. We were even one of the last to exist. Evolution makes perfect sense, any idea of a deity makes none, starting with the fact that a deity is a spirit, with such magnificent, implausible power that it's not able to be connected with any realm of logic. You can't bring science into religion. The world might implode.
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JenMcGully Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Ahh, but you seem to be forgetting science is the learning of God! Have you ever taken a look into it? How could the complexity of each small tiny leaf just appear and form in that way and work the way it does by accident? What about all the small particles and atoms in the air? How did all this just evolve out of nothing? Where'd the apes come from to be able to evolve from? I don't know where you seem to get the idea I'm blaming atheists, I'm not blaming anyone, merely stating my opinion in the matter which you have the right to object, think about, or even take it up as well.

Well would you have enjoyed evolving from an ape? I certainly wouldn't though they are smart creatures and close in likeness to us; they're still animals. Isn't that what Hitler thought of us as? That we're merely animals and we're to be treated as such and slaughtered? If we're merely animals then I suppose we have no importance and are just a chain link of meaningless items to support the next generation of evolving animals. If we evolved from apes then where is your proof? I don't remember anyone passing from generation to generation how we all evolved from apes like other important history was recorded and passed down. I do however know and remember quite well how religion was, wouldn't the evolving of apes into humans have been passed like religion has if it were true? And how did it only come to mind when a Charles Darwin studied and 'figured it all out'?
Sure there is a similarity, maybe a large one at that, but how did they gain the comlex morals and standards we as humans attain?

Pardon but you don't need a molecular structure to exist. Morals, do not have a molecular structure and neither do your thoughts or opinions.
What makes a God who created us so unreal if our thoughts or morals or conscience, or opinions have no molecular structure? And actually He did have and has a structure similar to ours because of the time He came down to earth and humbled himself down so dearly to become part human to save us. So if God does not exist merely because He does not have a molecular structure, then how can your opinion exist? Or mine? If that were the case I'd say that would leave us in a trench we couldn't get out of.

Well what do you expect? God evolved from something too? With our tiny human brains we can't comprehend the mightiness of God because He's too complicated for us to figure out, which is why we Catholics, Christians, etc. trust Him because if our brains are as tiny as they are and we can't even comprehend how powerful He is then why not just trust Him? My life has been way better then it was before when I didn't have much faith in Him. Why? Because I couldn't even make my own decision without it failing horribly(in the sense I never found true peace, happiness, and love). If we can't even make our own decisions and find a life that's fulfilling then how do we expect to figure God out in His ultimate complexity?

Oh? Then how did the complexity of it all come to be? How did it know how to evolve or was it all by accident? Was the complexity of each atom totally by accident? How did WE know the right time to evolve from apes and to began having morals and opinions about things? Was that MERELY by accident as well? How everything could just come through accident is a little absurd if you've ever took the time to look at something closely; like the bark on a tree, the individual tiny feathers off a feather of a bird, how our bodies function. God and science go hand in hand.

Then how did we come to believing in a deity instead of evolution in the first place? Only implausible because our brains cannot comprehend it. You see we're all so set on finding only the 'logic' in things that we are so mixed up about a deity because 'science' apparently can't figure it out when actually they go hand in hand! If everyone would open their mind enough then it'd soon become clearly logical.

I do respect your opinion but I can't find logic in what your saying either.
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NexusHUB Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
The apes came from an earlier ancestor, so on and so forth. Precambrian era, my friend. How is it you suggest humans miraculously came into existence? God could not have just intervened that ONE time to create a new race, and we were not the first ones here. While on that subject, why are we so important? Just because we have a language? If you take the Earth's history since the dawn as the length of your arm, humans have existed from the tip of your finger.

So, just because you think it's insulting, you don't believe in it? While on that matter, we are animals. We have our share of animosity. Ever seen 2001: A Space Odyssey? Apes and our common ancestor have OUT morals and OUR animosity, just slightly devolved. We got to where we are because of evolution from that.

Morals are not a consciousness or a being. Ideas that don't have structure don't have titles or names, they're part of a greater structure. God is on our level, with his creativity, his emotions etc. His own morals are as big a part of him as to us. He is a being in himself that should have a working brain, but doesn't. No part of him is built up of anything, just something undefinable. There's no logic in that. If God could possibly have a consciousness and almighty power, emotions and his own set of morals, he needs a body to convey that, utilize it. Morals, ideas and genuine and physical power are entirely different. If you have physical power, you must be physical. Morals don't have physical power until we use our bodies to carry them out.

Wait a minute. You're using God to find answers but yet God only leads to more questions. What's the point? You're asking me how the complexity of the world came to exist but when I ask you to describe how the overwhelming complexity of God came to exist, suddenly you can't answer. You're trying to find logic but there's truly no logic in that. He had to have come into existence. And considering the transition from the Old Testament to New, it's fair to assume that God himself has made colossal mistakes. He's on the same level as us. He made everything he felt like by simply snapping his fingers and making complexity as a chain so everything could work off each other to coexist. WE'RE the ones happily figuring it out with mostly success. If anything, we can comprehend things BETTER than God. Where's the use in believing you've drawn the logical conclusion when it just draws you to an even more illogical question? Then you just say, "well we just can't understand it". Well, what if the completely independent process of nature itself is so complex that we can't understand it? We know where the core matter for the big bang came from as well as you know where God came from. But there's a difference in all this. The big bang was physical and is backed up by evidence i.e. the Universe constantly expanding. But where we stand we just take comfort in not knowing, though we don't turn to a deity to answer all our questions for us.

We came to believe it because a long time ago people were more credulous. In ancient religions they couldn't possibly come to any other conclusion that God created it all, that was the dawn. Over time those religions vanished winkwink and then the Bible was written. No one supported or even knew about the theory of evolution before the similarities between animals and fossil evidence were noticed. What, you think we started out with our current intellect?
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JenMcGully Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
God is God. A Supreme Being. Don't you think a Supreme Being could do anything...? God has no limits, and never will. Which is why He existed before we came and never just started. To us it's odd and almost incomprehensible because WE started as something. So we use our tiny brains and think if we started from something God must have too. That's not the case. God being a Supreme Being never had a start, we can't quite figure that out because
1: not everyone has the faith needed and
2, because we are set on thinking JUST because we had a beginning God has to have one too.
Well yes He could have, He's God. I explained: A Supreme Being. A Supreme Being has no limits.
We are important because we were the only ones out of creation that God "breathed the breath of life into" which gave us a soul.

No, I don't believe in it for a large number of reasons. The few major of those being it gos against my faith, and the way my God has created the universe. Could you explain the process of evolution a little more? I'm not quite getting where your going. How did we develop these skills and what not we have now? I don't get that...

Well it makes more sense to me then a big bang. I've had experience with the 'other side' as you'd call it that has only strengthened my faith in Him.
Well that's what happened when He came down and became fully man and fully God. He doesn't need a physical composition to be real. I've seen and I believe in what I've seen. It's an awesome power that our words can't describe. He's love itself which has no physical composition.

Well truth be told Evolution only leads to more questions as well. What do you mean I can't answer? I told you, He always was. He never just became, or evolved or was made into something. He always was. Like I said above; we are all so set on only believe with what we've seen and think sounds logical. Just because we had a start doesn't mean God had one. We're completely different from Him but then so totally the same. We don't have words down here to describe anything He is because they don't do Him justice.
I could say the same to you actually... That works both ways. I find logic in Him and His ways because
1: I was brought up with it and
2, I've seen Him, and have heard Him and have seen His beautiful works and miracles.
When you see what comes from His hands you have no doubt that it has to be Him and there is nothing else anyone can do to make you see differently. Again like I said, just because we had a beginning doesn't mean God has to have one.
You've figured nothing out. Go on, continue to try and use your logic, it's not logical to me. Then tell me more about this 'proof' I haven't seen any as of yet.
My God answers all my questions whether it be a grunt, a wink, a smile, a frown, or a few words. He's never abandoned me since I gave my life over to Him.

Yes but people still believe. If it's so credulous then why do we still believe now? Wait, I can tell you that one. We have faith because we've seen and experienced Gods love and presence.
Pardon but none of those religions vanished 'winkwink'. There are people still practicing most of these religions today; only most of them in private groups. And not all of these religions are offering human sacrifices that we know of except Satanism anymore.
Of course not, but don't you think if evolution were real we would have come to seen the signs as early as we have of God? If we could have thought up something as 'mysterious' and 'out of whack' as God then why didn't the big bang theory come first if it is so much more logical then a God?
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NexusHUB Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
That's a very lazy way out, you know. I've been told that excuse too many times. No, that does not make sense. Sure, that explains why the extremely miniscule possibility of God's existence is there but it doesn't get you out of this ridiculous nature. When you try to comprehend it you only enter paradox. And don't say, "we just can't understand" that's not an answer. Hey, you can talk to him, why don't you, for the sake of argument, ask him how this works. How this makes sense.

Um, so you disbelieve it because it goes against your own faith...I don't know if I should use a circular reasoning joke here because it doesn't really apply. Tell you what, do the research like I should, because unlike Richard Dawkins, I've not a PhD in biology. The gist of it is our ancestors had the same skills, morals etc, just devolved. From there they grew.

Um, why? Evidence much? Besides, why did it strengthen it? Did you put insight and effort into conversion? I lost my faith too, a long time ago, and over the years that faith went from strong to the complete contrary. Your case is not Universal.
Placebo effect. There.

That's my point. Saying evolution or the big bang does the same thing doesn't excuse the idea of God. It's like when you get caught drawing on the wall, point at your siblings and say "OH BUT THEY DID IT TOO!" It only makes you admit you're aware of the absurdity but don't volunteer it. Again, what's the point? Your quest for answers only leads to having to take more comfort in not knowing. What's logical about that?
1. Erm, so was I.
2. Placebo. I never felt that. Since you're so convinced, you feel it. Lay our concerns to rest.
Um...you...too. I never said anything about proof, though evidence is different. I repeat, UNIVERSE EXPANDING. Really, why are you asking me, have you heard of me in National Geographic? Dude, I'm only a kid, and not an astronomer, archeologist, or biologist, don't do enough research but do enough and also do enough homework to know the gist of these theories and how the world works. You really wanna know? Do the bloody research. Then stop asking me for proof until you poof some up on your own.
I...don't even know what that means...

Um, no. People have faith because the child's brain is meant to suck up all the information its given by the parents, believe it, and live by it. It's how living things work, always has been. With that placebo growing we will eventually "feel the presence". Or you can be like me, not feel it, and become an atheist faster than you can snap your fingers. Hey, it's different for everyone!
No. No, no, no. The ancient religions are GONE. Everyone knows this. Yeah, SOME are still here, MINIMAL, but in terms of the dawn of religion, they're just gone. Now, in terms of other religions, I'll use a famous quote, "Tell me why you dismiss their Gods and I'll tell you why I dismiss yours." Wait I know, "Because your Gods the real God, you have a relationship etc." Why does no one understand the concept of every theist having as much a relationship with their God as everyone else, which renders that argument useless?

...have you missed everything I've said? Let me put it this way, if the Earth was really round don't you think we would have noticed that first?
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JenMcGully Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Well then if there were no God, why are there people like you who demand that He is not there? Why aren't there more people seeing the "truth" of life and converting to Atheism and believing in evolution and all if there wasn't a God?
If evolution were a correct theory then why can't or couldn't life evolve to adapt to the atmospheres of other planets? Why couldn't different creatures just 'happen', just evolve on other planets?
And where have we attained morals, and virtues then? Animals don't have them, and never did have them, so why do we? How did we attain the knowledge of right and wrong? How did we decide that to steal is wrong but to buy fairly is right? If you ever did any research on animals, they don't have any morals or virtues, they don't like helping out their siblings or other animals unless it's for their own gain. Unless they get everything they need, and they are safe, and fed and warm they could really care less. Why does it always feel truly good for humans to do good to others and forget about themselves instead of doing everything for themselves? A lot of people chose to be animals and do everything for themselves but how come they don't gain anything from it? How come they don't gain any true pleasure in it? How is it that the more you do for others the better and happier and more at peace you feel? Animals don't seem to know that or seem to find that in anything they do to other animals. Humans and animals are entirely different in the moral and virtuous aspect. Explain how we just started wanting to do good for others then would you? How did we evolve in that manner to want to do these things?

Pardon but just because a monkey has thumbs and can pick things up doesn't prove evolution is a correct theory. And if some of our ancestors were birds then why can't we fly? Why can't we sprout gills and fins and swim underwater either? What, do we still need to evolve another couple thousand years? Why don't we see any other animals evolving before our eyes? And if they evolved during a time before we were born why wasn't it documented? You know, the only "evolution" thing I see going on, is being done by man behind closed doors. Man tries to prove this theory by producing his own creatures in different forms, by combining different human and animal cells. Then they can then kill the animal/human extract it's skeleton create realistic looking copies and bury it in one of those excavation sites then pretend to dig it up. Therefore MAGICALLY "PROVING" evolution is a totally secure and correct theory.

You do know that Darwin even said something along the lines of Evolution is not a sound theory if you consider ALL of the elements. For us to magically evolve from nothing into the complex beings we are, even that animals can be is totally out of the question. Look at the human eye, our sense of taste and smell and touch, how would we just know to evolve in that manner? If you really look into the details of our every day life, and how many times we blink or look up or down, smell something cooking or baking, hear the different sounds we do and can instantly process in our minds what that sound is and where it's coming from etc. you'd find it unimaginable. As well as something even Darwin couldn't explain or fit logically into his theory. And because no one stops to take time and look at all the little details in life everyone is prone to believing something that's hardly stable.
As that one saying gos, "It's the little things in life that matter."

Does evolution really make that much sense to you? Look into every detail of the human body. If you studied anatomy you'd really see how complex EVERY little thing REALLY IS. How can that come from just nothing? How could that possibly just evolve from NOTHING? Even animals, how could THEY have possibly just evolved from nothing?
Look at the details and you'll find how insecure a theory it is. Unless of course you can come up with some other theory to supply the answer to this.

Believe what you want, that's your free will.
And there ARE tons of different religions still here. You're completely uneducated apparently to all that's going on behind your back. There are people still worshiping the sun and moon, the plants, and trees, other humans etc. There are still people making sacrifices to their gods, and others still who are practicing witchcraft, people using black magic etc. you name it. It's still here.

I admit I did miss it. But if we're grown in knowledge and all NOW, why can't scientists or other people supply a logical explanation that God doesn't exist then? Evolution isn't a stable theory, there isn't anything that has proven it correct.
If there is that you know about I'd find it fascinating to hear of it in detail.
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StarFreeheart Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2011  Student General Artist
Thank you <3 I've been saying that same thing for years!
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JenMcGully Featured By Owner Sep 12, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Well good you keep it up then! *Always* keep standing up for your beliefs and what's right! :w00t!:
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Laarz Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
you are taking a relativistic view on this. How can there be a God for me but not for you? He either is or isn't. Either you or me is imagining something.

I'm wondering what do you mean by proving somtehing through religious means?

You can't prove the air or anything by science alone. You have to belive certain things in order to know,like uniformity in nature and logic. ( I know almost everyone takes them for granted)
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Bickhamsarah Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
WOW! Nice!
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